In May of 2025, I had the pleasure of conversing with musician callmestevieray. We spoke about spirituality, creating art vs. content, the stories behind tracks, and his creative process.
ARIEL: “It’s been really nice to have your songs on repeat as I’ve been preparing for the interview. I really appreciate your positivity.”
STEVIE: “That makes me happy that the music is serving you.”
ARIEL: “For people who are unfamiliar with your music, who are some of your biggest inspirations and how would you describe who you are as an artist?”
STEVIE: “I’ve got so much that I draw inspiration from. As a child I really liked Aretha Franklin, I listened to a lot of Motown, I also listened to a lot of grunge and rock ‘n’ roll. And then my first heroes were the guitar gods, you know, Stevie Ray Vaughan (my namesake), Jimi Hendrix, Clapton— the guitar players were my favorite when I was young. And then as I grew older, I started to get into hip-hop— I think Eminem and 50 Cent were when I was in sixth grade, that was like the most intriguing thing in the world to me.
Then as an adult or more currently — the last few Mac Miller records have always been a huge inspiration to me. I like a lot of what Dominic Fike is doing.”
ARIEL: “In your song Begging, you say, ‘I had to grow up before I got my shoes to fit’— What’s an aspect of your personality that you’ve learned to embrace over the years?”
STEVIE: “I’m really sensitive. I have really big feelings, and I think I spent a lot of time embarrassed about that, and for a long time I thought the solution to my problem is, how do I toughen up? And growing up I realized that I just need to learn to be more sensitive, just lean into it.”
ARIEL: “I love that. I was wondering about your song Just Be You— did you write it with a specific person or multiple people in mind?”
STEVIE: “One of the people I was thinking about was a friend of mine who’s actually my entertainment lawyer now. He’s just like tall, good athlete, lawyer, married… just all these sort of like traditionally? successful things or whatever, you know? So that was kind of the original inspiration. I wrote the hook and I was just thinking about the idea of two people being envious of each other in the inverse way, but then I couldn’t write the verses and there wasn’t enough meat on the bone, so I left it for a really long time.
And then I met somebody, and I ran into the actual situation in my life, where I met this cool woman who was a doctor, and has been sort of on the path that is more societally ‘normal’ I think, than this kind of convoluted route, this like pinball through life that I’ve taken. She was like, ‘Well, you’re creative and you have all this freedom, you have all these crazy stories, and you’re not afraid to express yourself,’ and I was like, ‘Yeah, but you have security and esteem,’ and all that, so the song then manifested in those two verses.”
ARIEL: “Do you still find yourself making those kinds of comparisons between yourself and others?”
STEVIE: “Yeah, of course. I think it’s a natural human instinct to compare, but I think I give less weight to it now. I’m very grateful for the life that I have, and I will catch myself comparing, but I try to release that instinct.”
ARIEL: “It seems like creating music comes pretty naturally to you— Do think that that’s accurate?”
STEVIE: “It doesn’t feel that way to me; that’s not my perception of myself.”
ARIEL: “So what are some challenges that you face as an artist and how do you compensate?”
STEVIE: “Growing up, I felt like everyone was better than me and seemed to have more natural ability than me. I kinda had this idea of myself as like the tortoise and the hare, and so I just kept working. But I had to practice all the time— I didn’t have natural rhythm and I didn’t have pitch. I didn’t know how to use my voice.
I feel like I was good at writing for sure, and that part came naturally to me. I had a way with words, but I didn’t feel like I had talent as a musician, and I still can fall victim to that belief. So I studied a bunch and I practiced freestyling and I would learn all these other rappers— I’d learn their flows, and I would practice the metronomes, and I took singing lessons. I did all these things to kind of develop the technical skills to make my music sound good, and that took me like a decade.
So I often think of myself as the opposite. I’m not a natural talent, but I do have work ethic and vision, and I feel like that’s carried me. But I’m trying to let go of that belief, because now I think I’m very talented and it does come easily to me, so I don’t need to hold onto this idea of myself as less than now.”
ARIEL: “Is there anything that you feel makes a song album worthy?”
STEVIE: “When I make a project, I embody the character, and then whatever’s supposed to be on there will reveal itself, but I don’t feel like I make that many decisions. The decisions truly get made for me, like even when it comes to lyrics. The place that I would like to be at all times when it comes to making art is that I am being guided by spirit.”
ARIEL: “In smoke you say, ‘I’m penning my future / This isn’t a verse / Telling my story / I’m living at first / Some of y’all doing that shit in reverse.’ Are your songs solely a reflection of your current life, or do you ever use songwriting to manifest goals?”
STEVIE: “It’s both for sure. I think there is a symbiotic relationship between art and life. I think life is the tree and art is the fruit, so a necessary part of my creative process is that I have to live life. I’m constantly in pursuit of goals and if I’m not looking around, I’ll miss it. There’s beautiful stories happening all the time, so it’s important for me to live with presence of mind.
The world is so poetic. I don’t write any of this stuff; I just observe and then it comes to me as a channel: I see a vision, I get a feeling, and then I live that way— it’s like method acting or something. When I made Late Bloomer, once I had that concept and that story, I lived it first. I had a set of principles and ideals that I wanted to embody in this record, and I lived by them for like a year. And then by the time it was time to write the album, I remember saying, I wanna just be able to freestyle the album. I want my entire stream of consciousness to be so cohesive with this concept that there’s no effort in writing, I don’t have to think of anything, I just am it. So that’s kind of what I was getting at in that line, and I’m preparing to do a similar thing for my next project.”
ARIEL: “I was wondering what you think the difference is between making art and creating content, and how often does that line get blurred?”
STEVIE: “We live in this era where the demand for content is so high, and the volume of output that’s required to succeed is so high. I don’t really know any artist that it’s not a psychological burden for them to create content, and that’s certainly my experience. I love making art, and I don’t always love making content. But when I make content the same way that I make art, which is with joy and pursuit of what I think is the coolest idea, then I am free to do it frequently.
When I make music, I don’t think about how well it’s gonna do or who’s gonna like it, and I don’t make any decisions based on, like, well, songs at this tempo are doing better— I don’t study trends; I just make what comes to me. And I fall victim when I’m making content to trying to optimize for the algorithm and the marketplace. I make all of these decisions that are not spiritual in nature, that are not authentic in nature, and that’s the source of my pain— that I’m disregarding my spirit in order to make tangible gain, and now I’m extorting my own self, and that hurts. So the goal for me is to be completely detached from results and completely true to what I think is cool when I make content, and then I have a pleasant experience.”
ARIEL: “You allude to having attention difficulties in some of your songs. How does that manifest nowadays, and do you have any advice for others like me who might relate and struggle to be productive?”
STEVIE: “Yeah, it’s a constant struggle. It’s been a thing my whole life, since I was a very young child— very hyperactive and distractible. And then it’s persisted, because we live in a world now where the entire world is trying to get your attention. We live in a world of distractions. I was just talking to my friend yesterday about how my phone is kicking my ass lately. I’m trying to be more present and redirect my attention.
For me, the solution is to pray and meditate. I have a choice to make in where I want to direct my energy in my life, and sometimes I make that choice mindfully, and sometimes that choice seems like it’s getting made for me. So when I notice that I’m not making that choice intentionally, I just ask for help. My power source is a spiritual one.”
ARIEL: “In oblivion you say, ‘I remember getting faded to escape this shit’— Do you still find yourself trying to escape from negative emotions or experiences, and what coping mechanisms have you found to be most helpful?”
STEVIE: “Yeah, I think it’s a very human instinct to try to escape discomfort. I have learned to be better about leaning into discomfort and again, my solution for most things in life is a spiritual solution. Meditation has been a really valuable tool to me throughout my life and especially lately, because it allows me to sit with discomfort and to see it for what it is, which is like a fleeting experience; it’s much less of an actual threat to me than I perceive it to be, and if I can get out of my head, then I can get in my body, and I believe that within my body is an intelligence that is superior to my own. So if I can get out of my thoughts, then there’s clearly a greater intelligence that’s taking care of everything, and it’s all working fine. So if I can sit quietly and try to connect to that, then I know it can be revealed to me that there’s nothing to worry about, and that discomfort can dissolve. Most all of my discomfort comes from fear.
And then faith— I trust that I’m going through some sort of discomfort for a reason. There are old ideas that I need to release or there are new ideas that are here to serve me. Just trusting that there’s a purpose for it.”
Discomfort is often rooted in fear, but finding the courage to push past it is where creativity thrives. In a culture obsessed with views, likes, and shares, callmestevieray prioritizes authenticity. Our conversation serves as a reminder for me to operate from a place of faith, not fear. Wherever the road takes Stevie next, I trust he’ll be following his heart and creating meaningful art along the way. In a world constantly commodifying our attention, callmestevieray’s sincere approach is refreshingly magnetic.
Check out Stevie’s latest 10-track album Just For Now, his 2026 single “Stuck,” and trending song “Rack” — all available on streaming platforms including Apple Music and Spotify now.
Fun fact: I discovered my last interview subject, Posie Pocket, from an Instagram story shared by Stevie!